Talk:Qualitipedia and the Original Reception Wikis (2019-present)

About GyrineZ
Do you think GyrineZ is a bad user or not? Szczypak 2005 16:25, November 25, 2022 (GMT+2)
 * Honestly, not really. He wasn't all that notable, compared to the people on this list. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * He insulted those who opposed the RfC (myself included) simply because they opposed, and even sent a death threat to one such person. Szczypak 2005 16:33, November 25, 2022 (GMT+2)

I was just wondering....
Why does this page have an entire list that's just dedicated to calling out on several users when this wiki was meant for Wikis themselves and not the userbase? --BrownieTheAlien (talk) 06:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * A bad userbase is part of why a wiki can be bad. That being said, there are several users listed that shouldn't be (for example, Money12123 is part of that list, and his tagging of unsourced pages with only a few unsourced pointers is nowhere near as bad as -abigblueworld-'s literal harassment of several users), so I'll remove them. Tali64^2 (talk) 21:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm here and I had to say it
Hello, former Crappy/Awesome Games Wiki admin here. You may know me as Allistayrian. I became aware of the existence of this article some time ago by searching my nickname on Google. I would like to say that I am grateful that this page exists because these wikis were problematic to manage. It's also good to see criticism towards me because it makes me learn from my mistakes and point out that I wasn't a flawless user. However, I do have a few things to point out that the pointers, which apply to me, seem a tad too opinion-based.

Allistayrian era (2020-2022)
1) "Allistayrian was an overall weird and strict admin, who would delete every page he would consider poorly-written, even if said pages are actually decent." - To make this pointer more objective, here's my version: "Allistayrian was generally a strict admin with exaggeratedly higher standards than other admins, who, especially between January and April 2021, massively deleted articles she considered "poorly-written", mainly due to "weak pointers", even though most articles had consistent requirements enough. Since April, she has decided to take a few months break from Qualitipedia to end this poorly-executed practice, returning with an apology for massive page deletions. This practice has ceased to be used since her return, which is perfectly indicated by the deletion log, which shows that Allistayrian restores most of the deleted pages and other administrators in this case also helped."

Here are some facts from my perspective: a) This pointers largely applies to my practice, which was used until April 2021, and every active admin during that time can confirm that I started restoring these pages. Not all, but most of them. But somehow this article says I was doing it for the whole time.

b) The only articles I deleted (since the "redeeming" era) were the "opinion-based" pages, in which the reception of a game was different to be disqualified from CGW or AGW, rather than for having "weak pointers".

2) "He has also made a whole bunch of unfair or exaggerated blocks, such as blocking Szczypak2005 just because he split one page into two." - "whole bunch of unfair or exaggerated blocks" - where you mentioned just one example. Here's less biased version: "She had a tendency to ban users who didn't do a particularly bad thing, but some little things annoyed her to the point of banning. An example victim was Szczypak2005, who wanted to split one article into two pages about Galaga: Destination Earth. "

3) "Because of his big purge, users like Portrock1566 left Qualitipedia and hated it afterwards, which basically led to Qualitipedia having even more opponents." - Biased pointer that would apply to any controversial user, not just me.

4) "He also blatantly ignored the criticism of others, which is clearly demonstrated by the blog that purports to justify his activities on the grounds that he is having a bad day." - The author of this pointer doesn't seem to have a sense of humor, considering that its reference is a blatant meme blog that was based on various memes on similar topics that I saw on YouTube.

There is one thing that also indicates that the article is partially biased. This is about users who, despite having done bad (Duchess and Moisty, for example), if not worse things than me, are defended at all costs, and when it comes to a demanding admin like me, a person who tried to improve wiki's quality control (which, well, I admit, was way too strict), "(s)he's bad and should be burned at the stake".

"...While the community is incredibly toxic as mentioned in WISN#4, there are also a lot of good users here, even if they did make some controversial decisions, although most of them either retired or became inactive or were about to leave the site ([*] - the user that has left the network). Here are some examples:....

... Allistayrian (pre-september 2020) [*]" - First, I became an admin since August 2020 by Kringe and SpazJR61. Two, I wasn't controversial during that time. This disaster started happening in the beginning of 2021. Three, I started redeeming myself since my June 2021's comeback. The only users who dislike me are the same people who follow Zangler's opinion about me (which were only his unsourced speculations), instead of analyzing me from your own perspective. On the other hand we have "DuchessTheSponge (despite his poor handling of Qualitipedia)" - it's basically defending his actions which were so bad he quit. You call him decent probably because you still have a contant with him, while you're too scared to talk to me, despite openly revealing my Steam account, as well my contact mail. You're only judging me by the controversial stuff on the wiki instead of the actual bad things I could theoretically have done (which have never been seen because I didn't).

Next time you should judge someone by their unusual actions (which may have happened even outside the wiki) instead of the typical Wikipedian actions.

Yes, I wasn't a great user, however, not horrible enough to classify myself as a user compared to the toxic people listed above.

Last words
1) I don't use he/him pronouns anymore as I recently revealed myself as transgender. So I recommend you change the pronouns.

1,5) TigerBlazer goes by they/them pronouns, not she/her. I'm in contact with them, hence I know that.

2) The main reason why I used to be so demanding it's caused by one teacher from my school (I have already graduated) and became the main inspiration for which I was honest and critical, instead of telling someone fake thoughts just to comfort someone. It's worth mentioning that I wasn't an absolute Albert Enstein-level genius with exclusive top grades; I was average, like everyone else, I guess.

I hope someone notices this, and if they consider responding to this discussion, do it politely. Regards, Allistayrian (talk) 21:52, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've updated the page to reflect your changes. It's not word-for-word, but it conveys the spirit of what you're suggesting. Tali64^2 (talk) 00:30, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Well hello back boy... I mean girl! So you finally came back to annoy me again, ehh I thought you'd never get here and yet... even here I'm not safe from you, you're literally everywhere, I can't believe it! Szczypak 2005 22:25, January 21 2022 (GMT+2)
 * Szczypak, I have no idea what you mean. I just came here to check the critique of Qualitipedia from the other wikis. Since the original Qualitipedia was shut down, you shouldn't judge me by the wiki management side because that's a thing of the past (I'm only contributing on Wikipedia, but rarely nowadays), and look at who I am now. Believe me, a lot of things have changed over the last 6 to 8 months, and looking at someone from past memories alone don't reflect what I'm doing today. Given my edit history, the only person who portrays me in such a negative light is you and your mis-analysed speculations. Besides, I saw your comment under BartekGM's latest post. Allistayrian (talk) 22:23, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Seeing that you feel remorse for your actions, I forgive you for the whole action that took place a year ago, after all, not only you and Katsumi, but a large part of society attacked me when I wanted to have peace with them and I did not interfere in their affairs at all. Szczypak 2005 09:27, January 22 2022 (GMT+2)
 * If these actions really could have had a negative impact on your psyche, then once again I apologize. For me, the only goal was to keep the peace between us. Compared to other users who could have done incomparably worse, deleting pages is the least criminal of all and the easiest to solve (as we had lots of others admins, but looks like they were scared during that time until my first retirement). Allistayrian (talk) 08:46, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've already forgiven you everything, you don't have to grovel so much, most of the sections about you have been deleted, and I hope we never clash again. Szczypak 2005 16:17, January 22 2022 (GMT+2)

This page should only be available to automatically approved users
I think the page should be more secure against newly registered users given the few wars that have happened instead of keeping it secure for admins only due to the heavy traffic of this site and I am sure these wars will continue indefinitely. Szczypak 2005 12:24, January 22 2022 (GMT+2)

Any way to move this page?
I wanna rename it to "Qualitipedia (2020-present)" because 2020 was actually when the Reception Wikis started to go downhill because of Allistayrian's qualoty control and the whole drama with Inkster. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 6:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ask a Tali as he is the only admin on this wiki, I would do it but i can't Already done. Szczypak 2005 09:36, January 30 2022 (GMT+2)

Can I please be removed in the article?
It is the same reason as the previous time I removed myself in the article. Also, most users liked me back when I was still on Fandom. https://spongebob.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000366480 https://theloudhouse.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000164390 MarioBobFan (talk) 02:09, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm seriously wondering if we should remove all user pointers from this article, however Tali wants them to stay for some reason, and besides, Qualitipedia was on Miraheze and not Fandom so I don't know what that has to do with it? Well, at least you're not like the Leerdoman who went wild and insulted everyone he could by removing not only himself from the bad list, but also me and SSK from the good list for no reason at all, so I'm really impressed that you didn't you keep what is really commendable. Szczypak 2005 09:36, Febuary 18 2023 (GMT+2)
 * Qualitipedia was on FANDOM, and it originated from that site in 2013, though the wikis that were part of it were just called "Reception Wikis" and wasn't even branded as "Qualitipedia" until early 2021 on Miraheze. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 6:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * From what I've seen, MarioBob didn't join until 2021, and the wiki moved 3 years earlier, so what does it have to do with him being liked on Fandom? Szczypak 2005 09:45, Febuary 19 2023 (GMT+2)
 * Many (if not all) reasons why a wiki is on here is partly because of its userbase. For example, a wiki is overrun by vandals (which are technically part of its userbase) and becomes less useful every day. A wiki has a terrible administration (constant fights with users and each other, plus blocking users for little to no reason). That was caused by a more privileged userbase.
 * MarioBobFan, even though you've improved as a user, it's still important that you remain in the article so your previous behavior is another example of what to avoid. It's not a reflection of your current behavior at all (mostly). Tali64^2 (talk) 15:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

About The Users
User after user demanding to be removed, I really don't see any point in keeping this mess anymore given that this is just the tip of the iceberg and other users will come here and want to remove themselves. Both lists do more harm than good even if there are sources, and I'm pretty sure it's an extremely terrible idea considering all the circus around these lists, also note that prior to this site, there wasn't much on here and these lists are clearly the reason for the fuss around here. I think it's best to remove both indicators because they only cause unnecessary edit wars and drama and nothing else, and the user wiki has been closed for a reason. Szczypak 2005 11:24, Febuary 18 2023 (GMT+2)
 * I also think that everyone should form an opinion about any user instead of relying on the most popular opinion, plus every user will consider someone to be a good user or a bad user, and that's where the imbalance comes in because literally everyone has a different opinion about someone another. Szczypak 2005 11:32, Febuary 18 2023 (GMT+2)
 * See my reply in the thread above. If a majority of users here agree that the pointers should be removed, however, I or another user will remove them. Tali64^2 (talk) 15:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)